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GMCnet is a service of gmcmotorhome.com, which exists as
a result of the encouragement received from members of the
Toronado Mail List. During the
Summer of 1997, members of the Toro List urged Patrick Flowers to write a FAQ for the
GMC motorhomes. David Moninger of The IslandTime Web Site
offered server space for the FAQ, and the project commenced. Once the FAQ was published,
response from GMC owners and fans was overwhelming, prompting the more ambitious project,
gmcmotorhome.com, to be launched. In September of 1997, the circle became complete
with GMCnet coming online.
In August of 2004, Mailinglists.org ceased operations, the domain gmcnet.org was
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In July of 2005 the list was temporarily moved the gmcnet.org to
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I would like to thank the following for their support:
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- David Moninger of The IslandTime Web Site
for his gracious donation of server space for the original GMC Motorhome FAQ and his continued
mentoring in the art of HTML programming.
- Zachary Zehnacker for dutifully scanning GMC Motorhome floor plans for the
- Mike Frederick of Edison3, Inc.,
Greg Kalkhoff(aka "Sparky"), Doug Kitchener and all the other members of the
"Toro" List for their encouragement.
- My wife, Sharon, for putting up with yet another bone-headed idea.
- The community of GMC motorhome owners and GMCnetters, whose continuing support make all this possible and without whose participation all this would be meaningless.
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